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I think the most important question is whether someone who is involved in this research believes fat people have as much value as anyone else, period. There are corrolaries to this, like, do they make their living trying to define our bodies as inherently diseased? Do they make their living prescribing starvation for fat people as a pathway to moral acceptability (good fatties starve)? Do they make their living teaching higher-weight/faster-growing children to develop eating disorders? It's the eugenics for me.

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My comment relates to patient disclosure of disclosures. Have a friend in misery since starting semaglutide but their doctor's pushiness (based on the "amazing results of the cardiac study") convinced my friend they need to stick with it. Have no idea if my pal's MD read the study, it appears to me that over 90% of the participants in that study opted out (yikes!) - but I'd like to see everything you mentioned along with a few simple stats in a study summary disclosed in writing to patients. Like the longer drug summaries in teensy print, a lot of folks wouldn't read them, but some of the info could be summarized in basic English and be set in a table that might help consumers. And prescribers.

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Hi Debra,

The pressure from doctors around this is so wrong. I did a deep dive into the cardiac study here if that helps: weightandhealthcare.substack.com/p/the-semaglutide-wegovy-cardiovascular

~Ragen

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Thanks! I passed the link on to my friend though I'm still thinking about what seems iffy-science and the diet-industry's apparent lack of concern about fat lives. Acceptance seems so much simpler and healthier.🤷‍♀️

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