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And all of these barbaric procedures are based on the notion that fat people are fat because we eat more than non-fat people. Which is blatantly untrue. My husband regularly marvels at how little I actually eat yet here I am, still fat.

They can all eff off.

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Yep! Same here. I was with a smallish man for 16 years. We ate all the same foods, and he normally finished my food, and I am fat. All my friends joke about my “small stomach” too.

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I'm stunned! This is horrific, how can they get away with this? My niece is currently waiting for surgery (I don't know which one) she's so incredibly fat phobic that she will do anything "to be thin". They're selling it to her by using her young daughter - gaslighting her saying things like, setting a good example, being there for her when she grows up (implying she's going to die). I really don't know what to say to her. I've tried to introduce her to fat positivity but nothing works. I post a lot about fat positivity, I'm currently on a medication for my disability, one of the side effects is weight gain and it's been fantastic! Yes I've gained weight, but my mobility is so much better & I can now walk with sticks! It really is awesome. But all she sees is the weight not the improvement in my life.

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Thank you for reminding me of the dangers of bariatric surgery. I have Diastolic heart failure, which is helped by being smaller. WLS is suggested to me All. The. Time.

If WLS was really about making people smaller, they'd research high volume liposuction as well as or instead of damaging the digestive system.

Fun fact - I have a permanent colostomy because cancer destroyed the end stage of my digestive tract. Knowing this, medical professionals still suggest truncating the beginning of my digestive system. *Facepalm*

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The grisly details are horrific. F this b.s.

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Of all these options I feel like the jaw magnets (not mentioned here) would be a way to go. All those procedures you described sound rather horrific. If you were forced to - gun to the head type of thing - to pick one from the above, which one would you choose?

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Honestly, caloric restriction causes life long damage, this thought experiment is too painful to conclude. Reading up on the effects that a diet of 1600 calories a day — more than any fatphobic doctor has tried to convince me to live on! — had on the 36 men who completed the Minnesota Starvation Experiment is pretty radicalizing.

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I would take the gun to the head.

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